Santa Fe, and Other Public Schools

With this blog, we hope to collect helpful ideas about how Public Schools everywhere (and in particular, in Santa Fe, New Mexico) might be improved.

Monday, February 13, 2006

How can we Improve our Schools?

Our public schools are a cause for concern. In 2005 the NAEP (National Assessment of Educational Progress) nationwide score for math showed that 63% of fourth-graders and 71% of 8th graders rated below competent. For reading, the scores were 71% below competent for both 4th and 8th graders. The math scores were somewhat better than they were in 1990, but the reading scores were no better at all.

We would like to suggest a way to guarantee that virtually all 4th graders will be competent in English and Math in one year, that all 8th graders will be competent in five years, and that all high-school graduates will be competent in nine years.

This blog will describe how this can be done, and will solicit comments and criticism by anyone -- teachers, principals, parents, school superintendents, and anyone else with an interest in our schools.

The plan we show in these pages will solve the four problems our schools have in trying to insure that all our students can read, write, and calculate . These are the problems.

1. The schools promote students from grade to grade even though the students have not learned the material.
2. Students are unruly, noisy, and rude in class.
3. There are a few teachers who do not know the material they are supposed to be teaching. There are others who need help with their teaching skills, or have difficulty maintaining order in their classrooms.
4. Schools have no way to find and use new ideas.


CLICK HERE to read the complete plan in its present form.


We’ve recently run across an alternative, more general approach to solving our school problems. If you CLICK HERE, you’ll find a “School Improvement Planning Guide”.


CLICK HERE to read suggested solutions to the promotion problem.
CLICK HERE to read suggested solutions to the discipline problem.
CLICK HERE to read suggested solutions to the teacher problem.
CLICK HERE to read suggested solutions to the ‘new ideas’ problem.
CLICK HERE to read about other problems which have been suggested as being important.
CLICK HERE to see pertinent comments on schools that we've found here and there.


If you’d like to read more, please click on one of the links below. At each of these other pages, which detail the discussion that led to this plan, there is room to add your own comments and criticism.


Action Hoped-for by the reader:

We’d be delighted to hear from anyone (in New Mexico or anywhere) interested in improving our schools. Please give us your ideas and suggestions, which can be added here by any visitor. The first edition of this blog has already been changed as a result of comments made by viewers like yourself, and we hope there will be much more discussion.


To comment, just click the underlined word ‘comments’ at the bottom of this page (or any of the other pages), and tell us what you think. You might like to tell us:


1. Why you think schools don’t need improving.
2. Why we’re wrong about the problems discussed above, and why (or what additional problems exist that we‘ve ignored or overlooked).
3. What you think should be done to improve schools.


(Incidentally, your comment or remark or criticism can be anonymous.)

NOTE: Before commenting, you might look at the other pages in this blog -- the blue CLICK HERE’s above. They may address your comment, and you can comment there as well as here.

To read comments already made, click the time-of-day down below.
To make a comment, click the word ‘comment’ below.
To send a copy of this page to a friend, click the small envelope down below.


(This blog is an independent enterprise, not in any way affiliated with the Santa Fe Public Schools.)




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14 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your article is great! I personally feel that the JOY and FUN of learning is missing in the public schoolroom. Our students are shown how to regurgitate facts, but not how to learn from experiences and from the world around them. Through our school systems we're producing puppets instead of free thinkers.

1:15 PM  
Blogger Monty said...

Thanks for the compliment. But shouldn't they also learn how to read, write, and do arithmetic?

1:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brain research has been 'happening' for 75 years! We know that babies think differently than young children and that young children think differently than older children... Why then are our children being taught in ways that are not developmentally appropriate??

Why are we putting the 'burden' of being 'ready' for school on the shoulders of our 4/5/6 year olds when the burden of being 'ready' for children (of all developmental stages!) should be on the shoulders of the schools? Have we not had laws requiring a free and APPROPRIATE education on the 'books' for many years???

By requiring our young children to be ready for school we take the responsibility for education off of the school system.

The result: Children who are 'educated' in ways that are NOT appropriate for them 'check out', 'burn out', and 'act out'.

Learning IS fun, exciting, challenging and rewarding... but not when your 'explorations' are interupted, your vocabulary words have NOTHING to do with what you are learning (or are even interested in), your writing is a requirement, rather than an extension of your life.

What's wrong with our schools??? The science of brain development is ignored. Children (20+ to a room... what makes anyone think that all 20 will be on the same page developmentally/physically etc.?) are not being allowed to do what children do... LEARN!

2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Public schools push the kids too hard. All they care about is preparing the students for *TESTING*. I pulled my son out of school for this reason. I am in the process of pulling my daughter out right now. She is completely overwhelmed and lost. The school is doing nothing to help her. She hates school, and now hates math and science. She used to like both subjects. We will homeschool from now on.

Schools need to think about students as individuals, not a mass of money to be made. They need to look into customized, adaptive curriculums for the students. Tney need to focus on students' strengths, and not their weaknesses. Each child would excel if given the chance to gain enough maturity to tackle certain subjects.

I would not want to be a student in the public school system right now.

2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About the ids being out of control in the classroom. I taught 5th grade math for several years and found that I was at fault when the kids got out of control. If I went to the classroom unprepared the kids knew it and failed to pay attention. Why should they pay attention if I had not done my preparation. Now I can offer a lot of excuses for not being prepared, but the excuses are just that and I believe that excuses are for loosers. Winners do the job and never quit. When I was prepared and worked the kids minds all day, we had great behavior. We have learning taking place at all times. Now, in fairness, there are occasionally exceptions and everyone does not behave every day, but the rule is challange and they behave. Now, the problem with most schools today is two things: First lack of motivation and second no real way to measure successful learning. We need to have teachers trained in motivation and trained to motivate the kids. When teachers themselves are not motivated, they do a poor job with the kids. When they do not know how to motivate, they can not motivate kids and kids do not get interested in learning. Secondly, we need a complete overall the the testing that masures all children by the same yard stick. The yard stick being the standardized test. Kids are very different, come from different homes with different influences and motivating factors and to measure them by a standard test yeardstick is not fair. The child raised by a teacher mother and professional father who help their children and motivate them to acheive is head and shoulders ahead of the child who comes from the disadvantaged home with no help and bad influences that hold no expectations for him. He can not hope to do as well on a test, that measures everyone the same. There is no easy answer, but we need somehow to grade kids on the progress that they make and to give the ones that need tutoring and motivation from counselors the time and opportunity to get it. These comments I make are from me, and I feel not reason to be anonymous. B. J. Woods bjwoods@granbury.com Thanks

3:03 PM  
Blogger Monty said...

Re "Brain research": 75 years ago children were orderly in class, and either learned the material for their grade, or repeated the grade. I was in classes having more than 30 students, and current studies indicate large classes are not a problem.
Re "Public schools": I agree that students should be treated as individuals, but I don't see why 'customized, adaptive curricula' are needed. The basic problem is that too many children graduate from high school hardly able to read, write, or do arithmetic. I sympathize with your decision to homeschool your children. And they will be in college before schools improve. But we've got to start the improvement process now, so there's hope for the future.
Re "About the kids": I agree that ineffective teachers are a problem (see the blog page http://santafeschoolteachers.blogspot.com) . But I disagree about testing. Any child can pass current tests if he or she has been taught properly in a class where discipline reigns.

7:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't have much to contribute and you're not likely to be inspired by my thoughts. My thirteen year old son has never been to school. He simply didn't want to go and we felt his sense of self and wholeness was more important than anything he could get at school. Whatever positive
things schools can offer the world offers on a larger scale.

I don't hold much hope for school reform. In my perfect fantasy world schools would be open community learning centers where young people could go immerse themselves for a day or week or month or year (or longer) in
those things that inspire and delight them. There could be sewing rooms, cooking rooms, mechanics shops, carpentry shops, art studios, chemistry labs, astronomy labs, martial arts dojos...kids could find apprenticeships and field research work, just whatever they like, without fear of bad grades or threat of lifelong failure if they should leave one interest behind and move on to another.

One part of your blog addresses the "discipline" problem at school but this "problem" won't be solved so long as people are compelled by law to be where they don't want to be. When people feel they have no choice they resist.

Maybe I do have advice! If we want schools to run smoothly make them places where children *want* to be, where they are not shamed for what they don't know yet, where they have real choices and freedoms and where the teachers finally and fully believe every individual has the right to
learn in his own way and in his own time.

(Parent in Montana)

8:38 AM  
Blogger Monty said...

Re "I don't have": I suggest that all children should know how to read, write, and do arithmetic .. regardless of what their "interest" is. Many schools are not providing this result for many, many children. That's the problems we're trying to solve.

I believe children should be compelled by law to learn the above. Perhaps they should also be taught that it's important to be able to read, write, and calculate, so they won't "resist".

It may be fine that a child have "the right to learn in his own way and in his own time". What shall we do if a 8-year-old child doesn't want to learn the multiplication tables?

8:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 8 years old. I have never been to school. I home school all my life. I have a sister. She is 4 years old. This is just so you know.

11:46 AM  
Blogger Monty said...

Thank you for writing. I'll bet you are a good homeschooler. Perhaps you could persuade your Mom or Dad to write a comment here and tell us why you're homeschooling and not in a public school.

1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yesterday I met a young lady who graduated from Santa Fe High in the late 70’s. I noticed a photo posted nearby, and asked if it was her daughter. She said it was, and I asked if she were in school. I then learned the following:
Her daughter lives with her father in Pojoaque, and goes to school there. Her son is a junior in high school in Santa Fe, and she wanted him to go to Pojoaque also, but he refused.
So she took him out of school (he is a junior, and was at Santa Fe High) and is Homeschooling him. She says the Santa Fe schools do not teach children any longer, and she doesn’t want her children to go there. She says her son doesn’t know the addition or multiplication tables -- that she is having to teach him things he should have learned in elementary school, years ago -- things she herself learned in elementary school.

10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monty, this is a very tough and important subject. I admire you for facing the issue head on.

I feel that I received an excellent education in the Santa Fe public school system. I graduated from Capital High School in 1997 and was well prepared for university. I attended and was able to succeed at Colorado School of Mines in Golden, Colorado that attracts top students from all over the nation.

I attribute my success to self-motivation, parental involvement, and the school system. At Larragoite, Alameda, and Capital I had excellent teachers who were able to deal with the troublemakers and focus on teaching the kids who wanted to learn and thrive. The majority of my teachers were well-versed in the subjects they taught and life. In high school, the football coach, Mr. Moon, was a phenomenal history teacher. I particularly liked the setup we had with the same English and History teachers for the first three years.

Here are some other more general thoughts:
- Extracurricular activities play a very important role in learning. Sport, music, club, and art programs need to be bolstered and not cut. They provide many students with the focus and motivation they need to do well in school.
- Good teachers should be paid that way. In California, I know teachers who can’t afford to raise a family on their salary alone.
- Imagine if the federal government spent a greater percentage of the GDP on education. What if all kids were proficient in reading, science and math and some were inspired to become scientists and engineers? What if those kids helped to develop technology to reduce our need for foreign energy sources and the sticky wars that come along with them?

Marco Leon, mclimb11@yahoo.com

9:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have 3 daughters now in 8th, 5th and 1st grades. My oldest was in the Great Falls, VA public elementary school until 2nd grade and she still wasn't reading independently. I was told by teachers & the public school every year that she was young for her grade & would catch on eventually...It didn't occur to them she hadn't ever been taught phonics there and that this might be the problem. My younger two went to a Montessori school from age 3 onward and both could read within weeks of entering kindergarten because they had a solid foundation in phonics.
Public schools are failing Americans and until they are run like businesses (lousy teachers get fired, good ones get paid well), we can expect no change. Why do the teachers' unions fight vouchers? Because if parents in bad school districts could vote with their feet and put their kids in better schools (public or private), the bad schools & teachers would close! I am all for state achievement testing at certain key grade levels because it makes certain the basics of reading, writing and math are being taught. Everyone should stop whining and put those kids to work learning their addition, subtraction & multiplication/division facts! These are skills needed for LIFE and important to learn early when it's still easy to do. Same with reading. But how do you teach reading in a class of 30 with one teacher? On homeschooling, hats off to parents who are fed up enough to take matters into their own hands and give their kids the education they deserve!

11:54 AM  
Blogger Monty said...

I sympathize with you wholeheartedly. I set up this blog hoping public schools might be interested in improving, and spent a lot of time trying to promote it here in Santa Fe. I also emailed many, many individuals and organizations who were interested in school improvement.

The Santa Fe School district rejected the idea. They believe the steps they are taking are the only things possible. I believe they will never reach the point where all students can read and do arithmetic.

None of the other people I wrote to were interested either. Or they did not reply.

So I have given up, and am with you in trying to promote vouchers. Unhappily, most politicians are so intimidated by the teachers' unions that they are afraid to vote for vouchers. That's especially true in New Mexico. Governor Richardson set up a special, new Dept of Education, which is completely ineffective.

If you can thing of anything I can do, please let me know...with another comment here, if you like.

4:48 PM  

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